Some-Some Particular

Some-Some Particular syllogism involves two particular positive statements: 'Some A are B' and 'Some B are C'. These statements do NOT guarantee any definite conclusion about the relationship between A and C because the overlapping portions of B with A and C may be different. These problems test your understanding of when conclusions are NOT valid.

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Introduction to Some-Some Particular

Some-Some Particular syllogism involves two particular positive statements: 'Some A are B' and 'Some B are C'. These statements do NOT guarantee any definite conclusion about the relationship between A and C because the overlapping portions of B with A and C may be different. These problems test your understanding of when conclusions are NOT valid.

Prerequisites

Understanding of 'Some' statements (particular affirmative) Concept of overlapping sets without subset relations Venn diagram representation of partial overlaps Knowledge that 'Some' means 'at least one'
Why This Matters: Some-Some Particular problems teach you to recognize when no conclusion follows. You can expect 1-2 questions in SSC CGL and Banking PO exams.

How to Solve Some-Some Particular Problems

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Step 1: Identify the three terms in the syllogism

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Step 2: Draw three overlapping circles representing the three terms

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Step 3: Represent 'Some A are B' by placing an 'X' in the overlapping region of A and B

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Step 4: Represent 'Some B are C' by placing an 'X' in the overlapping region of B and C

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Step 5: Observe that the two X's could be in different parts of B

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Step 6: The X from A∩B might not be in C, and the X from B∩C might not be in A

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Step 7: Therefore, no definite conclusion about A and C can be drawn

Pro Strategy: Always remember: Two 'Some' statements (I+I) give NO definite conclusion. The only way to get a conclusion from I+I is if additional information (like 'All B are C' or 'No A are B') is provided.

Example Problem

Example: Statements: Some fruits are sweet. Some sweet things are red. Conclusions: I. Some fruits are red. II. No fruit is red. Solution: Step 1: Terms: fruits (A), sweet things (B), red things (C) Step 2: Draw Venn diagram Step 3: 'Some fruits are sweet' → place X in A∩B Step 4: 'Some sweet things are red' → place X in B∩C Step 5: These X's could be the same or different - we don't know Step 6: It's possible that some fruits are red (if X's coincide), but also possible that no fruit is red (if X's are different) Step 7: Therefore, neither conclusion I nor II is definitely true Answer: Neither conclusion I nor II follows

Pro Tips & Tricks

  • Memorize: I + I → No definite conclusion
  • The middle term (B) is not distributed in either premise (both are particular statements)
  • Draw two possible Venn diagrams: one where the X's overlap (giving 'Some A are C') and one where they don't (giving 'No A are C')
  • If both possibilities exist, no conclusion is definite
  • The only time I+I yields a conclusion is in complementary pair situations (Either-Or)
  • This pattern teaches you when to answer 'Neither follows'

Shortcut Methods to Solve Faster

I + I = No definite conclusion
I + I does NOT give I (Some A are C)
I + I does NOT give E (No A are C)
If both conclusions are complementary (Some and No), then answer is 'Either follows'

Common Mistakes to Avoid

Assuming 'Some A are C' follows because both statements have 'Some'
Assuming 'No A are C' follows because the X's might be different
Forgetting that 'Some' in logic means 'at least one' (could be all)
Not considering both possible Venn diagram configurations

Exam Importance

Some-Some Particular is an important topic for various competitive exams. Here's how frequently it appears:

SSC CGL
1-2 questions
BANKING PO
1-2 questions
RAILWAYS RRB
2-3 questions
CAT
1-2 questions
INSURANCE
1-2 questions

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